4 weeks to go to our Community Declaration!

If you love our district landscape of forests, farms and spring fed streams please stand up and be counted.

If Coal Seam Gas miners take up their licence to mine here they will, potentially, devastate the landscape and farms and pollute the underground water. There is plenty of evidence, in other places in Australia, that this will be our fate.

Legally we have very few ways to protect the district, but an extremely potent way we can resist the miners coming is by community action to Declare the whole district “Gasfield Free”.

We are organising a district wide Declaration and Celebration, on the afternoon of Saturday February 28th, to tell the many invited politicians, media and local VIP’s that the community has Declared the Mountain Districts Gasfield Free. This will make it very clear to them that we want the Petroleum Exploration Licence that covers the district removed for ever.

Your presence at the Declaration is very important because a huge crowd of locals will be very convincing. It will also be fun. We will have live music, food stalls, entertainment for the kids and a Declaration ceremony involving some of our young and older community members.

We need volunteers for setting up, food stalls and for the Declaration. Please message us if you would like to volunteer.

Please stand up for the community and come to the Declaration.
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400 Central Coast residents raise their hand in support of keeping CSG and coal mining off the Mountain

hands up for CSG free Central Coast

400 Central Coast residents packed out the Central Coast Grammar School hall on Thursday night (27/11) to learn about the risks posed by coal seam gas and coal mining to drinking water, local industries, nature and human health.

Gasfield Free Mountain Districts Co-convenor Simon Perry asked for a show of hands from the audience in support of the residents of the Mountain Districts and the community’s overwhelming desire to remain Gasfield Free. The result was a near unanimous raising of arms across the audience.

Local Anglican Church leader Father Rod Bower and Australian Actor Michael Caton kicked off a rousing program of speakers that included Kulnura local and expert on the aquifers Andrew Shirley and Julie Lyford (Chair – Groundswell Gloucester). Dayne Pratzky, feature of the soon to be released film Frackman described how he has been driven off his Tara property by CSG mining, and Jilliby local Alexia Martinez spoke on her concerns over coal mining.

The Central Coast is at the frontline of coal seam gas and coal mining issues with much of the Mountains District and drinking water catchment for the Central Coast is overlaid by AGL’s coal seam gas exploration license.

Speakers called on candidates from all political parties to take heed of the demands of local residents that the area be permanently protected from coal seam gas mining.

Public Forum – November 27th at Central Coast Grammar School

Momentum is building on the Coast to support a Gasfield Free Mountain District.

Date for the diary: the evening of November 27th there will be a big

community meeting being held at Central Coast Grammar School.

Come along to show the community that we don’t want CSG on the Mountain.

Very important – please spread this to ALL your coastie contacts!

RSVP here.

See you there!

Coffee drunk, cake eaten and the CSG industry unravelled

SP+JL+AS+JELast night’s community meeting to delve into the more technical aspects of CSG mining and the specific impact to the Mountain Districts aquifers explored a range of sobering areas. Kulnura local and Geotechnical Forensic expert Andrew Shirley spoke at depth on the risks posed to our aquifers by CSG mining. Julie Lyford, former Mayor of Gloucester nor full time activist and Chair of Groundswell Gloucester took time from her busy schedule to share with us a glimpse of the hard battle Gloucester residents are engaged in with AGL to stop the town and rich farming industry being decimated by CSG mining.

Everyone also enjoyed a fantastic spread of cakes provided by the Gasfield Free Mountain committee.

Pictured above (from left to right) Simon Perry (Co-convenor Gasfield Free Mountain Districts), Julie Lyford, Andrew Shirley, John Edye (Co-convenor Gasfield Free Mountain Districts).

We’d again like to thank Julie and Andrew for their fantastic presentations and generosity in spending time to share their knowledge. A very thought-provoking session.

A detailed report will be posted soon.

CSG mining and the need for due diligence when purchasing property

Much as been said about the downward pressure CSG mining has on property values. Of course the CSG industry will say “bumf and nonsense” to such statements. Michael Fraser, Managing Director and CEO of AGL is due to retire next year, and he is perhaps feathering his retirement portfolio with a swag of properties the value of which have been enhanced through the installation of a few gas wells, flares, and compressors, a garden feature incorporating a waste-water evaporation pond, a pimp-my-truck styled drill-rig parked in the drive.

Meanwhile, in the real world…

Curtis Associates is, in their own words “(A)n independent and licensed buyers’ agent located in the Sydney CBD which acts exclusively for buyers of residential and commercial properties whether to occupy, develop or as an investment. We are specialist and full time buyers agents free from the distractions of other business activities such as property management and finance brokering. Buying property is simply all we do and we do it well.” Curtis Associates “act as exclusive buyers agent in Sydney and as such, never acts on behalf of sellers of real estate.”

That last piece is very important in understanding what Curtis Assoc. has to say about CSG – because they never represent sellers of real estate they have no self-serving interest in downplaying any depreciative characteristics of CSG mining on property values. Curtis Assoc. charges their clients “a fixed amount in your price bracket and does not increase with every increase in the purchase price.”

Curtis Associates has this to say about Coal Seam Gas mining and property values:


“For those looking to buy a house in Sydney or an investment property in Sydney, the issue of CSG mining is a further and increasingly high profile example of the regulatory and environmental risks which can be encountered in the Sydney’s ever changing property market.

Nature of the issue

The issue has both public and private elements.

The public element is now well documented and centres around various environmental, health and safety risks associated with CSG mining especially to aquifers supplying water into the food chain and where the “fracking” extraction method is used.
The private element is of particular interest to existing and prospective property buyers. It centres around the law and other guidelines under which a party becomes entitled to explore for and extract CSG.


Curtis Associates go on to warn that it is difficult for a buyer to know whether a prospective property is subject to a CSG Petroleum Exploration License (PEL) and further that there is currently no law forcing sellers to warn a buyer of PEL coverage. They point to the Minview website as a resource people can use to see the gross coverage of the variously issued PELs across NSW, as do we.

Curtis Associates go on to warn:


“(W)hile development consent from a local council or authority may be required before a petroleum title can be granted, property specific searches of such a council or authority will not reveal petroleum titles over other land on which CSG mining might be conducted and which might have subterranean or other environmental effects on the land being searched.

Whilst it is possible to navigate through a series of steps on the DPI website to download an updated list of petroleum titles and applications, the particular difficulty with this type of property risk is that even if pre purchase due diligence uncovers a petroleum title affecting a property of interest, because of the exploratory element inherent in CSG mining and environmental effects that may be unknown (and in contrast for example, to a development consent for a new building), it is difficult to ascertain the future nature and extent of that risk.


We’ve heard it said by property sellers and those representing them that A). CSG won’t come here and anyway if it did my land values would not be downgraded, if anything the fact that I’m getting a royalty for a gaswell on my land is only a good thing. More income means higher values; and B). All this community noise about CSG, the signs along the road about CSG meetings and the articles in the local press are putting off potential buyers.

Clearly Curtis Associates has a lot to say about the validity of point “A”. The best way to retain the value of our land investments is for the community to collectively Lock Our Gates against the gas companies and Say No To CSG.

As to the second point; blaming the presence of signs such as LTG Yellow Triangles and those erected to advise the community about CSG meetings for downward pressure on property values is a case of shooting the messenger. It is like a seller of water blaming the inventor of the microscope for the drop in the value of a glass of water when the microscope finds the water to be teeming with disease causing microbes. The facts of the matter are; we’re covered by AGL’s PELs and that fact, combined with the real possibility that mining could commence have the potential to exert a downward pressure on land values.

Should mining commence, we will almost certainly find our land values decreasing to a significant degree.

The visible presence of community resistance to CSG mining, such as signs, is if anything a fantastic boon for our community and sends a strong message to potential buyers that they are looking at property within a community that has both a backbone and sense of community co-operation toward the common good. The surveys of all the residents of the Mountain Districts are almost complete and collation of the data has begun; we’re on track to declaring Coal Seam Gas unwelcome and unwanted.

PS. Don’t miss the Coffee, Cake and CSG session on the 23rd if you want to understand what happens underground when CSG mining occurs.

Report on the Community Meeting – June 19th

Our community meeting, held on June 19th at Kulnura Hall was a great success. Over 300 residents attended, with 79 volunteering to conduct road surveys over the coming months. Peter FitzSimons attended and spoke about his concerns for the area, and his passionate desire to see our districts remain Gas Field Free. Peter also referenced the meeting in his subsequent Saturday column in the Sydney Morning Herald. The organising committee has been very grateful to have received numerous compliments on the meeting itself, and we’re glad that we were able to provide an event that was both informative and well run – it is important to us that we provide value to everyone as we help build community consensus regarding the future our districts.

For anyone not able to attend, here is a summary of the discussions and next steps in our process.

Is Coal Seam Gas a good or a bad thing for our Mountain District?

Gas companies say that the process of coal seam gas mining is not disruptive to the existing land usage. They say that the industry provides significant employment opportunities. They say that farmers and other landholders are fairly compensated. They say that coal seam gas is safe. They say that coal seam gas as a fuel is an energy source that can help reduce CO2 emissions, and thus is good for the environment.

Lets break this down:

  • Coal seam gas mining IS disruptive to the existing land usage. In our area, getting the gas to flow will require the drawing down of the aquifer that we all rely upon. In other areas of NSW and Queensland farmers have seen draw-downs in the levels of the aquifer of tens of metres. An ABC 4 Corners report on CSG reported that one farmer has experienced a draw-down of over one hundred metres! CSG mining isn’t about one insignificant well either – a CSG gasfield requires a well every 750 metres, in every direction. Each of those wells require a cleared pad. Each of them must be connected to a network of collection and transport pipes. At various points compressor stations much be installed and powered. Wells will also need to have gas flares to burn off excess gas. The water drawn from the aquifer will almost always need to be isolated from ground water, and therefore require huge holding/evaporation ponds. All that infrastructure will require heavy vehicle traffic to set up, and to maintain it. Farmers in Queensland report that gas companies have destroyed fences, leaving them unrepaired even after several years have passed.
  • CSG is an insignificant employer. This article destroys 3 myths of the CSG industry, one being that CSG is a major employer. In fact, the CSG industry is such a small employer that the Australian Bureau of Statistics does not publish specific data related to the CSG industry; it instead bundles up CSG into the employment figures for the gas/petroleum industry as a whole. That combined employment figure is currently 23,200 people – which is significantly less than the hardware chain Bunnings which employs around 36,000 people.
  • Farmers and landholders are not fairly compensated.Companies like AGL stand to make millions in profit from CSG. Landholders will see very little of that in compensation. In return what you will get is reduced land value (who wants to live in an industrialised gas field area?), polluted and reduced water supplies, polluted bore water (see above the ABC 4 Corners program which demonstrates a farmer lighting the methane that is now bubbling through his bore water), trucks, traffic and gas field infrastructure. The landholder also loses access to parts of the property, and while the damage done is basically permanent the gas field will last 30 years at best. The Mountain Districts have been productively farmed for over 100 years and many properties are multi-generational concerns. Do we want to see our farms continue productively for another 100 years? Or do we want to see them destroyed for the short term gains of foreign companies, and their shareholders.
  • Coal Seam Gas is not as “safe” as claimed. As well as the issues covered in the previous point, people living amongst CSG mining both in Australia and in America have reported considerable and concerning health effects stemming from leaking methane, methane and other pollutants in the water, and the stress of living in an industrialised environment (with the associated heavy vehicle movements, gas flaring and lights).
  • Coal Seam Gas is not the climate change solution it is claimed to be. CSG is the gas methane. Methane is around 25 times more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2 (for the full IPCC report see here). The CSG industry’s own figures indicate that methane emissions from CSG mining are very significant. It also needs to be recognised that there is not a single case where CSG mining goes ahead with the direct result of coal mining being stopped. So the question is not “Is CSG better than burning coal as far as preventing climate change?” but rather “Is it better to mine for and burn coal seam gas AS WELL AS coal?”

For these reasons we believe that the best outcome for our community is for the Mountain to remain Gas Field Free. At our community meeting guest speakers Reg Bennett (long time orchardist and resident), Peter FitzSimons (long time resident, author and journalist), Steve Phillips (Regional Co-ordinator for Lock The Gate), John Edye (convener of the CSG Committee), and Simon Perry (member of the CSG committee) all stated that they believe CSG is a bad outcome for our communities. When asked for a show of hands, the more than 300 attendees of the meeting all voted against CSG when asked the question “Do you wish the Mountain to remain Gas Field Free?”

Kulnura Hall community voting

Status of Coal Seam Gas mining in our area.

AGL’s Petroleum Exploration License #2 (PEL#2) covers all of the Mountain Districts with the exception of Somersby and Calga, both of which are currently free from any PELs. PEL#2 is huge in area, extending to the South West to include Camden and to the North to nearly the very Northern end of Murrays Run. AGL currently has upwards of 80 active CSG wells around Camden, including some that run alongside the Nepean River. If you live in Peats Ridge, Mangrove Mtn, Central Mangrove, Lower Mangrove, Spencer, Gunderman, Wisemans Ferry, St Albans, Bucketty, Murrays Run, Kulnura, or anywhere in between your property is covered within AGL’s PEL#2. If you live at the very Northern end of Murrays Run you’re still in a PEL, but you’re covered by the adjacent PEL#267 rather than PEL#2. On our “About CSG” page you can find a link to a mapping site, and also instructions on how to use the mapping data so that you can see for yourself the areas covered by various PELs.

Historically various companies have conducted test drilling for coal seam gas throughout our districts. For example, AGL conducted test drilling in Perrys Gully back in 1982.

Since that time however the technology associated with drilling has developed considerably, and in addition the market price of gas has increased substantially. In fact, any gas mined in NSW is intended to be sold to Asia, and we will see the price we pay domestically for gas increase dramatically as the coal seam gas industry develops (for more information see this article). The upshot is that the commercial attractiveness of CSG is much higher now to the gas companies than it was decades ago when any previous exploration took place.

Most importantly however, the NSW Government supports CSG throughout the state, and specifically in the Lower Hunter Valley. Of particular concern to us all is this NSW Government Planning Department document which on Page 33 states “…it is possible that coal seam gas production could commence within the next two years (in Wollombi, Grumps Retreat, Bucketty and Peats Ridge)”. That planning document was published in 2013, so we could well be seeing drilling start in the coming 12-18 months.

Is my property protected by state or federal law?

The short answer is: almost certainly not. When you buy a house or land in Australia you actually are only buying the top layer of land. The Commonwealth retains ownership of any minerals or other resources below that layer, and you as the land owner have no right to prevent or control extraction of those mineral assets. The rights to extraction are sold separately.

In 2013 (then) NSW Premier Barry O’Farrell provided some protection against CSG, but only for urban areas and specific areas designated as having significant economic value that would be disrupted should CSG mining take place. Specifically, thoroughbred horse studs and viticulture were given protection as significant economic value industries. Therefore some areas of the Hunter Valley have been granted a reprieve from CSG, as have urban areas such as the coastal Gosford and Wyong LGAs. If you’re a billionaire Saudi Arabian horse breeder with a property in the Hunter Valley you’re protected, but if you’re a farmer on the Mountain who puts food on the dinner tables of NSW then you’re likely to have your livelihood destroyed by CSG.

Furthermore, you have basically no right to say “No”. The gas companies are obliged to ask your permission, however this is lip service. A realistic analogy is when you “ask” your kids to go to bed. What you really mean is “It is time to go to bed, so off you go now and Goodnight!” It is more polite however to phrase that as “Would you like to go to bed now?” Similarly a gas company is obliged to ask your permission, but if you refuse then the best chance you have to enforce that is to push back to the point where you’ll get a chance to argue your case in an Arbitration Hearing. However neither party is allowed to have legal representation in that hearing. The reality therefore is that the landholder will have to argue his/her case alone, against a gas company representative who is paid and trained to win the argument, and has extensive experience in beating landholders in just such a setting.

What can we do then?

Fortunately there is something that we as a community can do to help keep us Gas Field Free. What has proven to be successful in other communities like ours, throughout NSW and Queensland is for the community to act before active mining commences to survey the community’s views on CSG. If the survey indicates that the vast majority of the community wishes to remain Gas Field Free than a declaration is made to that affect; signs are erected at key points, local and state politicians are advised, and as a result it becomes highly unpalatable to the gas companies to attempt to begin mining. The mining companies are put on notice that entering a district that is protected by community engagement will be difficult, resulting in unwanted bad publicity, and that their exploration and mining licenses may even be suspended due to them not heeding the desires of the community as a whole.

Based upon our initial survey of Ironbark Road, and from the overwhelming community engagement shown at the community meeting we expect that the survey of the district will find that somewhere between 95 and 100% of our residents wish to keep CSG mining off the Mountain. Our survey of Ironbark Road found that over 96% of residents wanted to remain Gas Field Free. At the community meeting a specially constructed sign recognising this fact was presented to the residents, and it is planned that the sign will be erected on private land along Ironbark Road  in a prominent position.


How can I help?

You can certainly help! Conducting the survey means visiting 1300+ properties. For that we need volunteers, so that we can all bite off manageable chunks of the overall effort. At the community meeting 79 people volunteered to play an active role in surveying their particular part of the overall district. Thank you! This is a great start, but the more volunteers we have the better. To put up your hand and help keep us Gas Field Free please email us. Our goal is to have enough volunteers so that we can have survey teams of two people, each knocking on the doors of 10-12 properties. Doing so will require only about half a day, with a couple more hours on top of that for us to train you on what the process is, agree a set of properties you’re responsible for, and for you to send us the results afterwards. Surveys will be performed between now and October, with the specific timing of each road and district to be determined by the various volunteers.

We also need financial help. So far committee members have donated time and money to make the meeting the success that it was, and to fund advertising, printing of brochures etc. At the end of the survey process we plan to have signs professionally made that will declare our district Gas Field Free. If you are able to donate to help fund our efforts, please email us. All donations are very welcome, large or small.

This is a community effort, so we’d love to hear from you and hear your suggestions. Again, please email us if you have any questions and suggestions.

Most importantly perhaps, educate yourself on CSG, be prepared for us to come and get your opinion, and tell your neighbours, friends, church, community groups and family about what is happening. Share the URL for this site on your facebook page. The noisier we are as a community about this issue the better. Already we have had very supportive press coverage in our Local Community News, the Coast Community News, via Peter FitzSimons’ column in the SMH, and on Alan Jones’ radio show.