Mangrove Mountain June Country Market

At the markets

A blustery morning did not deter visitors to our local market on Sunday 29th June. Under sunny skies Anti-CSG Committee members Poppe, Sue and Lorraine greeted the community at the Mountain Districts Association’s Gasfield Free stall in shifts throughout the day.

We signed up more helpers to assist us with our surveys of the local district and were also happy to receive some donations from generous locals and visitors alike (thank you!). We had numerous requests from people wanting to “sign petitions.” However, we told them that our strategy of surveying landholders and residents was much more effective in achieving our goal of a Gasfield Free community.

Our BIG sign attracted plenty of response

Importantly, there was no one expressing any view that Coal Seam Gas something we should have or needed. Our custom made “big sign” attracted a lot of attention, and there was much support from visitors who wished us every success and would be willing to help if there was ever a need to blockade or physically protest. We emphasized that we are going to stop Coal Seam Gas before it came to that!

Having a stall at our local market was another effective method of us achieving our goal and creating positive community connections. Thank you to everyone for your interest.

– Lorraine Hawdon



Survey co-ordinators meeting

The nitty-gritty process of starting to survey our communities started last night with a training session for the co-ordinators for our survey volunteer teams. All up we have just over 80 survey volunteers, including members of the Anti CSG organising committee. To help keep everything on track, and to help us scale we have asked for some of the broader set of surveyors to nominate themselves as precinct co-ordinators (which we’ll call ‘PCs’ to save some typing). The PCs will each take a survey territory, then organise their respective teams of surveyers to do the actual doorknock, and then get the results and any funds raised back to the committee. Funds will be raised through the sales of CSG DVDs, Lock the Gate signs and donations (we’re covering our costs for the DVDs and the LtG signs which the committee buys from the Lock the Gate Alliance).

surveyors meeting

Last night at Kulnura Hall Anti-CSG committee convener John Edye  explained the rationale and process behind the survey: to accurately gauge whether the community wishes to remain Gasfield Free. Hundreds of other rural communities like ours throughout Australia have undertaken similar surveys and have subsequently declared their overwhelming desire to remain Gasfield Free.

Byron Bay, Northern Rivers, NSW, December 12, 2013When the overwhelming majority of a community says “No” to coal seam gas mining in their districts gas mining companies know they’ll face extremely strong resistance from landholders when they start trying to negotiate access agreements. The end result is that the gas companies back down.

Meeting attendees heard from seasoned doorknocker Kate de Costa on how what to expect, how to be successful, and how best to approach households. Several attendees who had taken part in the survey of Ironbark Road emphasised how welcoming residents had been to their entreaties. Kate recommended teams of two surveyors people, suggesting that two men together would probably be less effective as unfortunately some people may be intimidated to see two burly strangers armed with clipboards and yellow plastic triangles arriving on the doorstep. Kate also stated that the only thing to fear about the survey effort is the likelihood of being offered an uncomfortable number of cups of tea!

John Edye also gave a tutorial on the differences between conventional gas extraction and the extraction of so called “tight gas”, of which coal seam gas is one type. “Tight gas” is bound within the rock and mineral strata due to the low permeability of the rock and by hydraulic pressure and will not flow to the gas well head without the pressure being reduced (by pumping out the water), and in some cases by fracturing (a.ka. “fracking”) the surrounding rock layers. The geology of the Mountain District will not require fracking, however it will require pumping out of subsurface water; drawing down the valuable aquifer that we rely on for our farming industry and local environment.

Survey volunteers will mobilise over the coming months, with residents being advised of an impending road survey through a letter box drop of a Survey Flyer.  Please note that on the back of the flyer that will be delivered there is a considerable amount of information for your reference concerning coal seam gas.

So that residents can identify surveyors everyone has been provided with a yellow identification badge. So please welcome us over the coming months to your doorstep and let us know whether you wish your community to remain Gasfield Free.

If you would like to join us and can help survey within your own area, or nearby please email us and let us know.

Report on the Community Meeting – June 19th

Our community meeting, held on June 19th at Kulnura Hall was a great success. Over 300 residents attended, with 79 volunteering to conduct road surveys over the coming months. Peter FitzSimons attended and spoke about his concerns for the area, and his passionate desire to see our districts remain Gas Field Free. Peter also referenced the meeting in his subsequent Saturday column in the Sydney Morning Herald. The organising committee has been very grateful to have received numerous compliments on the meeting itself, and we’re glad that we were able to provide an event that was both informative and well run – it is important to us that we provide value to everyone as we help build community consensus regarding the future our districts.

For anyone not able to attend, here is a summary of the discussions and next steps in our process.

Is Coal Seam Gas a good or a bad thing for our Mountain District?

Gas companies say that the process of coal seam gas mining is not disruptive to the existing land usage. They say that the industry provides significant employment opportunities. They say that farmers and other landholders are fairly compensated. They say that coal seam gas is safe. They say that coal seam gas as a fuel is an energy source that can help reduce CO2 emissions, and thus is good for the environment.

Lets break this down:

  • Coal seam gas mining IS disruptive to the existing land usage. In our area, getting the gas to flow will require the drawing down of the aquifer that we all rely upon. In other areas of NSW and Queensland farmers have seen draw-downs in the levels of the aquifer of tens of metres. An ABC 4 Corners report on CSG reported that one farmer has experienced a draw-down of over one hundred metres! CSG mining isn’t about one insignificant well either – a CSG gasfield requires a well every 750 metres, in every direction. Each of those wells require a cleared pad. Each of them must be connected to a network of collection and transport pipes. At various points compressor stations much be installed and powered. Wells will also need to have gas flares to burn off excess gas. The water drawn from the aquifer will almost always need to be isolated from ground water, and therefore require huge holding/evaporation ponds. All that infrastructure will require heavy vehicle traffic to set up, and to maintain it. Farmers in Queensland report that gas companies have destroyed fences, leaving them unrepaired even after several years have passed.
  • CSG is an insignificant employer. This article destroys 3 myths of the CSG industry, one being that CSG is a major employer. In fact, the CSG industry is such a small employer that the Australian Bureau of Statistics does not publish specific data related to the CSG industry; it instead bundles up CSG into the employment figures for the gas/petroleum industry as a whole. That combined employment figure is currently 23,200 people – which is significantly less than the hardware chain Bunnings which employs around 36,000 people.
  • Farmers and landholders are not fairly compensated.Companies like AGL stand to make millions in profit from CSG. Landholders will see very little of that in compensation. In return what you will get is reduced land value (who wants to live in an industrialised gas field area?), polluted and reduced water supplies, polluted bore water (see above the ABC 4 Corners program which demonstrates a farmer lighting the methane that is now bubbling through his bore water), trucks, traffic and gas field infrastructure. The landholder also loses access to parts of the property, and while the damage done is basically permanent the gas field will last 30 years at best. The Mountain Districts have been productively farmed for over 100 years and many properties are multi-generational concerns. Do we want to see our farms continue productively for another 100 years? Or do we want to see them destroyed for the short term gains of foreign companies, and their shareholders.
  • Coal Seam Gas is not as “safe” as claimed. As well as the issues covered in the previous point, people living amongst CSG mining both in Australia and in America have reported considerable and concerning health effects stemming from leaking methane, methane and other pollutants in the water, and the stress of living in an industrialised environment (with the associated heavy vehicle movements, gas flaring and lights).
  • Coal Seam Gas is not the climate change solution it is claimed to be. CSG is the gas methane. Methane is around 25 times more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2 (for the full IPCC report see here). The CSG industry’s own figures indicate that methane emissions from CSG mining are very significant. It also needs to be recognised that there is not a single case where CSG mining goes ahead with the direct result of coal mining being stopped. So the question is not “Is CSG better than burning coal as far as preventing climate change?” but rather “Is it better to mine for and burn coal seam gas AS WELL AS coal?”

For these reasons we believe that the best outcome for our community is for the Mountain to remain Gas Field Free. At our community meeting guest speakers Reg Bennett (long time orchardist and resident), Peter FitzSimons (long time resident, author and journalist), Steve Phillips (Regional Co-ordinator for Lock The Gate), John Edye (convener of the CSG Committee), and Simon Perry (member of the CSG committee) all stated that they believe CSG is a bad outcome for our communities. When asked for a show of hands, the more than 300 attendees of the meeting all voted against CSG when asked the question “Do you wish the Mountain to remain Gas Field Free?”

Kulnura Hall community voting

Status of Coal Seam Gas mining in our area.

AGL’s Petroleum Exploration License #2 (PEL#2) covers all of the Mountain Districts with the exception of Somersby and Calga, both of which are currently free from any PELs. PEL#2 is huge in area, extending to the South West to include Camden and to the North to nearly the very Northern end of Murrays Run. AGL currently has upwards of 80 active CSG wells around Camden, including some that run alongside the Nepean River. If you live in Peats Ridge, Mangrove Mtn, Central Mangrove, Lower Mangrove, Spencer, Gunderman, Wisemans Ferry, St Albans, Bucketty, Murrays Run, Kulnura, or anywhere in between your property is covered within AGL’s PEL#2. If you live at the very Northern end of Murrays Run you’re still in a PEL, but you’re covered by the adjacent PEL#267 rather than PEL#2. On our “About CSG” page you can find a link to a mapping site, and also instructions on how to use the mapping data so that you can see for yourself the areas covered by various PELs.

Historically various companies have conducted test drilling for coal seam gas throughout our districts. For example, AGL conducted test drilling in Perrys Gully back in 1982.

Since that time however the technology associated with drilling has developed considerably, and in addition the market price of gas has increased substantially. In fact, any gas mined in NSW is intended to be sold to Asia, and we will see the price we pay domestically for gas increase dramatically as the coal seam gas industry develops (for more information see this article). The upshot is that the commercial attractiveness of CSG is much higher now to the gas companies than it was decades ago when any previous exploration took place.

Most importantly however, the NSW Government supports CSG throughout the state, and specifically in the Lower Hunter Valley. Of particular concern to us all is this NSW Government Planning Department document which on Page 33 states “…it is possible that coal seam gas production could commence within the next two years (in Wollombi, Grumps Retreat, Bucketty and Peats Ridge)”. That planning document was published in 2013, so we could well be seeing drilling start in the coming 12-18 months.

Is my property protected by state or federal law?

The short answer is: almost certainly not. When you buy a house or land in Australia you actually are only buying the top layer of land. The Commonwealth retains ownership of any minerals or other resources below that layer, and you as the land owner have no right to prevent or control extraction of those mineral assets. The rights to extraction are sold separately.

In 2013 (then) NSW Premier Barry O’Farrell provided some protection against CSG, but only for urban areas and specific areas designated as having significant economic value that would be disrupted should CSG mining take place. Specifically, thoroughbred horse studs and viticulture were given protection as significant economic value industries. Therefore some areas of the Hunter Valley have been granted a reprieve from CSG, as have urban areas such as the coastal Gosford and Wyong LGAs. If you’re a billionaire Saudi Arabian horse breeder with a property in the Hunter Valley you’re protected, but if you’re a farmer on the Mountain who puts food on the dinner tables of NSW then you’re likely to have your livelihood destroyed by CSG.

Furthermore, you have basically no right to say “No”. The gas companies are obliged to ask your permission, however this is lip service. A realistic analogy is when you “ask” your kids to go to bed. What you really mean is “It is time to go to bed, so off you go now and Goodnight!” It is more polite however to phrase that as “Would you like to go to bed now?” Similarly a gas company is obliged to ask your permission, but if you refuse then the best chance you have to enforce that is to push back to the point where you’ll get a chance to argue your case in an Arbitration Hearing. However neither party is allowed to have legal representation in that hearing. The reality therefore is that the landholder will have to argue his/her case alone, against a gas company representative who is paid and trained to win the argument, and has extensive experience in beating landholders in just such a setting.

What can we do then?

Fortunately there is something that we as a community can do to help keep us Gas Field Free. What has proven to be successful in other communities like ours, throughout NSW and Queensland is for the community to act before active mining commences to survey the community’s views on CSG. If the survey indicates that the vast majority of the community wishes to remain Gas Field Free than a declaration is made to that affect; signs are erected at key points, local and state politicians are advised, and as a result it becomes highly unpalatable to the gas companies to attempt to begin mining. The mining companies are put on notice that entering a district that is protected by community engagement will be difficult, resulting in unwanted bad publicity, and that their exploration and mining licenses may even be suspended due to them not heeding the desires of the community as a whole.

Based upon our initial survey of Ironbark Road, and from the overwhelming community engagement shown at the community meeting we expect that the survey of the district will find that somewhere between 95 and 100% of our residents wish to keep CSG mining off the Mountain. Our survey of Ironbark Road found that over 96% of residents wanted to remain Gas Field Free. At the community meeting a specially constructed sign recognising this fact was presented to the residents, and it is planned that the sign will be erected on private land along Ironbark Road  in a prominent position.


How can I help?

You can certainly help! Conducting the survey means visiting 1300+ properties. For that we need volunteers, so that we can all bite off manageable chunks of the overall effort. At the community meeting 79 people volunteered to play an active role in surveying their particular part of the overall district. Thank you! This is a great start, but the more volunteers we have the better. To put up your hand and help keep us Gas Field Free please email us. Our goal is to have enough volunteers so that we can have survey teams of two people, each knocking on the doors of 10-12 properties. Doing so will require only about half a day, with a couple more hours on top of that for us to train you on what the process is, agree a set of properties you’re responsible for, and for you to send us the results afterwards. Surveys will be performed between now and October, with the specific timing of each road and district to be determined by the various volunteers.

We also need financial help. So far committee members have donated time and money to make the meeting the success that it was, and to fund advertising, printing of brochures etc. At the end of the survey process we plan to have signs professionally made that will declare our district Gas Field Free. If you are able to donate to help fund our efforts, please email us. All donations are very welcome, large or small.

This is a community effort, so we’d love to hear from you and hear your suggestions. Again, please email us if you have any questions and suggestions.

Most importantly perhaps, educate yourself on CSG, be prepared for us to come and get your opinion, and tell your neighbours, friends, church, community groups and family about what is happening. Share the URL for this site on your facebook page. The noisier we are as a community about this issue the better. Already we have had very supportive press coverage in our Local Community News, the Coast Community News, via Peter FitzSimons’ column in the SMH, and on Alan Jones’ radio show.


The community gathers to say “We want a gasfield free community”

Its been a very busy forty eight hours.

All day on the 19th of June volunteers helped set up the Kulnura Community Hall ready to host a community meeting for all residents of the Mountain Districts, for them to hear about the threat of Coal Seam gas extraction to the region, the invaluable aquifer which we rely upon, and how we can move together as a community to protect ourselves.

The cricket pitch next to the hall was staked out to organise parking; neat rows of star posts taped between with striped red and white control tape.

Lights strung in trees to give guidance and visibility for pedestrians.

Posts and tape strung to erect the saplings recently planted in the Hall gardens.

140 chairs laid out in neat rows. Tables for raffle tickets, information, signature gathering and greetings.

District signs hung around the walls to help organise volunteers who will take part in our subsequent door knocking surveys to ask our 1300+ residents “Do you wish to remain a gas field free community?”

Tea, coffee and cups.

Sound, video, lighting set up and tested.

A film crew arrives.

Four o’clock…..the fear strikes…..What if we have an empty hall?

Our community

Our community

At 6:55 we announce the impending announcement of or community meeting.

Seats fill.

More than 300 residents fill the hall.

Farmers. Shopkeepers. Professionals. Parents. Grandparents. Children. Priests. Business owners. Residents all.

Some spill outside unable to fit in.

We have a long way to go to survey the community’s wishes, and a long way to go to declare our community “Gasfield free”.

The community however has already begun to speak and gather and we have much to be proud of.

Three industry myths about CSG

According to Dr Barry Manor, Director of the Doyles Creek business Manor Sustainability Consulting Pty Ltd “There appears to be no compelling argument in support of expanding CSG drilling in NSW or anywhere else, for that matter.  A number of studies have shown that CSG potentially has a larger carbon footprint than coal (for generating electricity).  The overall employment associated with CSG exploration and its capacity to mitigate domestic gas price increases has been greatly exaggerated by the energy companies.”

Dr Manor points to this article as providing more information backing up his statements.


Coal Seam Gas will destroy the fabric of this community forever

My wife Marilyn Steiner and I moved onto 20 acres at Mangrove Mountain in 1999. We were attracted to this area by the rural lifestyle on a block with a stream running through it and lovely aspect. Over the past 15 years we have indulged our passion for gardening and have created a relaxing environment planting hundreds of trees, and in the process, creating a refuge for wildlife and over 80 species of birds.

We were very disturbed to hear that coal seam gas mining could come to the Mountain. If it does, it will without a shadow of a doubt, destroy the fabric of this community forever. Pictures of sprawling mines, retention ponds and all the other infrastructure associated with this activity from other areas look like a giant spider’s web defacing the landscape. Our aquifers would be contaminated making the fresh water relied on by many for domestic and other uses unusable.

And in case anyone thinks this is simply a problem for us to tackle, it will also impact on the catchment for the Gosford Town Water supply.

From a personal point of view we have seen evidence of a woman in an affected area being notified that her home insurance would be cancelled if mining happened on her property.

We are outraged that governments of all stripes are indulging destructive industries on several fronts at the expense of the communities they are elected and paid to serve, and will strongly oppose coal seam gas coming to this area and to other communities.


Stephen Goodwin and Marilyn Steiner
Mangrove Mountain

Why coal seam gas extraction would be bad for our homes

My wife and I bought our first home together on 25 acres in Bucketty in 1997, and with our then 18 month old daughter moved in to a place of bush, koalas, wombats and quiet. We felt immediately that this is a special place; productive farms, clear and clean skies and water, and a richness of life in native forests. My own roots to this area go back further still, visiting friends who lived in a property then signposted as “Skye” just down from the crossroads on Wisemans Ferry Road. While we moved away for a time with work taking us overseas we kept hold of the Bucketty property, which became a home to a series of renters some of whom remain today in the district. During our time overseas we always took time when visiting Australia to spend time in the local area; until the draw of this place brought us back permanently about five years ago.

From St. Albans Common to Bucketty to Kulnura, Mangrove Mountain to Peats Ridge and beyond and between there is much to love, appreciate and be proud of.

St Albans Common

St Albans Common

During our time away it seemed on the surface that little had changed. Chicken sheds still lined the road, cattle and alpacas chewed grass, motorbikes still curled through the curves to Wollombi and most of the same people we knew then remained here still. We also found new friends and experiences that have become a special part of what makes this district a uniquely special one. As an example the Mangrove Mountain and Districts Country Fair has become a symbol to me of what this community can achieve when we pull together for everyone’s benefit. Meanwhile though the world continues to revolve and develop around us – the relentless push to dig, drill and pump for energy sources and raw materials has stepped up a notch or ten in pace and along the way communities all around the world have seen their way of life ridden over and cast aside. A community’s loss is seen as something that can be ignored as long as multinational mining and energy companies and their shareholders rake in profits, while politicians line their pockets and claim bragging rights about GDP growth come election time.

We recognise that we live in a world that needs energy, and indeed our own lifestyle would not be possible without it. We do think though that there are many ways we can source the energy we need, with many of them being ways that our political and business “leaders” are clearly ignoring even as all-the-while they engage on a dash for gas, coal and oil. We think that there are many places that have an inherent value above and beyond the calorific and monetary value of what can be pulled from the ground. We think that water is more important than fuel; food more important than profit; family, friends and neighbours more important than shareholder value. We think that beauty, bush and communities are something that have a value exceeding the gross domestic profit of the country.

I think that we get to live in the community we help to build. My family and I think that the industrialisation of our land, the permanent destruction of our water supplies, and the disruption to the communities throughout the Mountain District that coal seam gas extraction will cause are not acceptable outcomes for this district. We chose to live in this place, and we think that one of the measures of an individual is the willingness to say “No” when it is the right thing to do. These are the reasons why we will not accept coal seam gas extraction on our land, our neighbour’s land, or anywhere in our community. If we are NIMBYs then we are also NIYBYs too – not in my backyard and not wished in your backyard either.

We think there is a better way – if you’re musically inclined this sums it up very well.

Simon and Naomi Perry. Bucketty.

The River Communities

Members of the MDA/CSG subcommittee will attend the next meeting of the McDonald Valley Association (MVA) on June 27th to give a talk on CSG mining in our districts, and the efforts we are undertaking to engage the community. The MDA/CSG subcommittee will work closely with the MVA and other community representative groups to ensure that we are taking a cohesive and co-operative approach throughout all the various areas of our districts.